Dragon's Crown |OT| -- NOW AVAILABLE! Hands-On Impressions Inside!

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#551 Phantom_Leo
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Anyone care to guess whom I chose?

:P

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Deadra the Sorceress, it is!

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Impressions: Seeing the stills of this game --DO NOT-- do it justice! It is absolutely one of the most GORGEOUS games I've ever had the good fortune to play!

I --LOVE-- the almost "Choose your Own Adventure" vibe it has going on! Brings back sooo many childhood memories!!  :D

I also love how it isn't a... Stage One. Fight from Left to Right. Complete Stage. Stage Two. Fight from Left to Right. Complete Stage. Stage 3... type of game! You have a Guild. You accept Quests, and of course there are Main Quest(s) that advance the storyline!

You choose what quests you want to do. In the stages, you come across Adventurers to resurrect, Treasures to collect, Glints of Light to Uncover Hidden Objects in the Background. It TRULY is the Crowning Achievement of this Genre!

I love how Customizable each character is, that you have Class Skills you can Earn and Learn or Common Skills you can equip, too. Everyone's characters can be completely different! From the Skills to the Equipped Items to the Weapons, etc, etc, You have TONS of options to Build your Preferred character!

I --HAVE TO-- say: The animations people have been getting so up in arms about go by SOOO quickly in the choas of the game, you --REALLY-- have to be obsessively LOOKING for them to notice and nit-pick so much about them! This game is no more gratuitous than any other Japanese game... Mini-Games where you control a Pointer Finger and Touch bound women? Yeah. No. Haven't seen anything like that yet. Someone's either LYING or taking a STILL PICTURE out of context and fabricating stories!

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More to come later!

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#552 Phantom_Leo
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A: Hand the Scepter over to the unknown man to Avoid Bloodshed in the Castle?

--OR--

B: Ready your Weapons, Fight the Guards and Return the Scepter to the People who gave you the Quest?

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...WHAT DO YOU DO?

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Can't tell you how simple a thing as this makes me sooo Happy! Such a throw-back and so utterly cool!

:)

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#553 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Elf starting to feel a lot better now that I've stopped whiffing arrows. WTB more arrows though.

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#554 Jbul
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Oh wow.  I.  Love.  This.  Game!

 

Artwork is ASTOUNDING!  This game is beautiful.  I mean WOW!   You can't help but sit in awe when you enter a new area.  The music is really perfect and enchanting as well.  

 

I'm playing the sorceress.  Why?  Because I felt it would've been too damn easy to play the Warrior. I want to jump in and learn the game the hard way. The game plays like a brawler, but with RPG-like depth, just like you imagine.  You can replay stages to grind for treasure (OMG, this is gonna be so addictive) or just to get more EXP if you want, and there's optional side questions popping up all the time.   I can see myself playing this through over and over with each class!

 

Now I want the Vita version!   

 

 

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Really love that I can play the sorceress as a necromancer. Have upgraded that skill twice, so that I can have 2 skeletons summoned at once. Once you get to the fourth or fifth story mission, the areas have plenty of bone piles to keep your undead army rolling. It's a nice dynamic having to balance mana-recharging attacks with heavy elemental blasts and then having your minions tank for you.

But I do like the Elf better. So fast. Juggles, wall kicks. Dash by the enemy and shoot him in the ass in one fluid motion.

Really interested in seeing how the other classes are unique. Closed out two of the party slots. Makes it a little harder, but I think that's a good thing. And I can actually see what I'm doing.

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Really love that I can play the sorceress as a necromancer. Have upgraded that skill twice, so that I can have 2 skeletons summoned at once. Once you get to the fourth or fifth story mission, the areas have plenty of bone piles to keep your undead army rolling. It's a nice dynamic having to balance mana-recharging attacks with heavy elemental blasts and then having your minions tank for you.

But I do like the Elf better. So fast. Juggles, wall kicks. Dash by the enemy and shoot him in the ass in one fluid motion.

Really interested in seeing how the other classes are unique. Closed out two of the party slots. Makes it a little harder, but I think that's a good thing. And I can actually see what I'm doing.

Ish_basic


I love playing as my Elf especially with salamander oil and explosive shockwaves :)
  

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#557 Jbul
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Really love that I can play the sorceress as a necromancer. Have upgraded that skill twice, so that I can have 2 skeletons summoned at once. Once you get to the fourth or fifth story mission, the areas have plenty of bone piles to keep your undead army rolling. It's a nice dynamic having to balance mana-recharging attacks with heavy elemental blasts and then having your minions tank for you.

But I do like the Elf better. So fast. Juggles, wall kicks. Dash by the enemy and shoot him in the ass in one fluid motion.

Really interested in seeing how the other classes are unique. Closed out two of the party slots. Makes it a little harder, but I think that's a good thing. And I can actually see what I'm doing.

Ish_basic

Crazy how your party members just randomly come and join you during missions... very arcade old-school'ish.  It's almost like someone dropped a quarter in the other side of the machine.   

 

You're right though, the screen gets BUSY quick.  I can see 4 player co-op being quite insane.

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#558 Jbul
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Hey everyone, be sure to download the FREE alternate voice pack from the Playstation Store (which you can do from the main menu).   It's pretty cool -- it gives you the choice to have the ENTIRE GAME narrated by any one of the character voices you'd like (Fighter, Sorceress, Elf, etc) -- 5 additional choices in all.   The original narrator is very well done of course, but these are REALLY cool to play around with, and would be awesome on subsequent playthroughs to give the game a different feel.

 

 

The pack if free until Sep 6th.  

 

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#559 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Multiplayer will probably get a bit clearer as you begin to figure out which spell effects are friendly. Right now I'm just scared of everything that's on the screen because I don't know what anybody other than the Elf does.

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#560 Allicrombie
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[QUOTE="Ish_basic"]

Really love that I can play the sorceress as a necromancer. Have upgraded that skill twice, so that I can have 2 skeletons summoned at once. Once you get to the fourth or fifth story mission, the areas have plenty of bone piles to keep your undead army rolling. It's a nice dynamic having to balance mana-recharging attacks with heavy elemental blasts and then having your minions tank for you.

But I do like the Elf better. So fast. Juggles, wall kicks. Dash by the enemy and shoot him in the ass in one fluid motion.

Really interested in seeing how the other classes are unique. Closed out two of the party slots. Makes it a little harder, but I think that's a good thing. And I can actually see what I'm doing.

Jbul

Crazy how your party members just randomly come and join you during missions... very arcade old-school'ish.  It's almost like someone dropped a quarter in the other side of the machine.   

 

You're right though, the screen gets BUSY quick.  I can see 4 player co-op being quite insane.

Between you and Leo and Kevin, I'm actually thinking about picking this up.
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#561 SaudiFury
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when i eventually get this in a few days, i'm goin' Amazon on first go round'.

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#562 CarnageHeart
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This game is much more than what I was expecting. Very deep character customization and every weapon (and shield) looks different on screen (my screenshots are from the PSV version).

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#563 MirkoS77
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^^^

Got to pick me up a Vita at some point.  Is the PS3 version a straight up port or what?

Mine in the mail tomorrow. :D  Better be at least....

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#564 CarnageHeart
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^^^

Got to pick me up a Vita at some point. Is the PS3 version a straight up port or what?

Mine in the mail tomorrow. :D Better be at least....

MirkoS77

I don't have the PS3 version yet, but according to reviews the PSV version suffers from slowdown in spots while the PS3 version doesn't. I haven't run into any slowndown but its early yet Also, while its a small thing the PSV version puts the touchscreen to good use (but not overuse) since you can use it to tell your thief to open a locked door or a treasure chest (you just tap the object).

DC is awesome though. I was stuck in one room with regenerating slime I had to clear out with a torch before dropping the torch and picking up a key to open the locked door (new slime was steadily dripping from the ceiling/growing so while its possibe to escape the trap its not possible to defeat it).

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#565 N3MO
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The PS3 and Vita versions are identical. I have played through most of the game in both versions. I can count on one hand how many times the frame rate got a bit dicey in the Vita version. It was never game breaking and lasted a couple seconds. And the use of the touch screen is wonderful in the Vita version. Really really enjoying the game.
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I don't know why people are complaining about opening treasure chests on the PS3...it feels natural to me

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#567 Ballroompirate
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I don't know why people are complaining about opening treasure chests on the PS3...it feels natural to me

josephl64

It takes awhile to get use to

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[QUOTE="josephl64"]

I don't know why people are complaining about opening treasure chests on the PS3...it feels natural to me

Ballroompirate

It takes awhile to get use to

A patch which makes opening chests easier on the PS3 just hit Japan.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/07/dragons-crown-update-makes-network-play-smoother-adds-diagonal-throwing/

Dragons Crown just came out in North America and Atlus already has an update for the game. The patch announced for Japan improves network stability and adds a couple of gameplay tweaks. Heres what in the Dragons Crown update released on PSN today:

- You can pickup hidden items with the finger cursor.

- The L1 button on PS3 and the L button on Vita can be used for item shortcuts.

- The dagger and bomb can be thrown diagonally by pressing the left stick up and pressing triangle.

- An added feature allows you to repair all of the items in your bag at once.

- The online menu has a feature to select an area so you can play with other adventures from the same region.

Atlus also made various tweaks to Dragons Crown to make it play better. One of these is making runestones more visible and expanding the number of arrows dropped if there are more Elves in the party.

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#569 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Lost Woods B is the best boss ever.

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#570 Ballroompirate
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Took a break playing the Fighter and now I'm playing the Elf/Archer, she feels so broken :?

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playing as the amazon, xena. anybody know how to limit how many party members join in adventures (besides letting them die and not reviving)?
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Why is the Elf recommended for Expert players? Simply pressing the attack button sends her dashing here and there and it's so simple to out manuever your opponent. 

This isn't really a complaint, just a curiosity. I was more annoyed losing my sword as the Knight than I ever was with the Elf, so far.

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playing as the amazon, xena. anybody know how to limit how many party members join in adventures (besides letting them die and not reviving)? LoG-Sacrament
Unless you outright dismiss them, they seem to join you in the dungeons whenever they want. Don't know any way to shut this off!

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[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]playing as the amazon, xena. anybody know how to limit how many party members join in adventures (besides letting them die and not reviving)? Phantom_Leo

Unless you outright dismiss them, they seem to join you in the dungeons whenever they want. Don't know any way to shut this off!

yeah, that's what it seemed like. 4 characters seems too busy to me right now.
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You can turn off the join slots in the bar. In fact you have to for one quest.

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#576 Jbul
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Can someone explain to me how shortcuts work please?

 

 

Oh, and the Vita version of this game is STUNNING, literally the same as the PS3 version.  :)

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Can someone explain to me how shortcuts work please?

 

 

Oh, and the Vita version of this game is STUNNING, literally the same as the PS3 version.  :)

Jbul

Hold up on the dpad.

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#578 Jbul
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Game is still so damn good.   The combat is deeper than I thought.  Reason I hadn't gotten a chance to explore it is because I'm playing a magic-using class that generally likes to keep a distance.  But lately I've been getting close to enemies and discovering depth -- juggles, launches, sweeps, combining physical attacks with magic -- the list goes on.   And I'm not even playing a melee class!  I can't even imagine.

 

Another thing I like is how the game throws cool little things in levels to suprise you.    Most awesome so far is fighting some pirates, and well... I won't spoil it for those who haven't gotten there, but it was awesome.  I can't wait to beat it so I can start again as an Elf.  lol

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[QUOTE="Jbul"]

Can someone explain to me how shortcuts work please?

 

 

Oh, and the Vita version of this game is STUNNING, literally the same as the PS3 version.  :)

syztem

Hold up on the dpad.

 

Thank you.  I'll give it a try. :)

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Game is still so damn good.   The combat is deeper than I thought.  Reason I hadn't gotten a chance to explore it is because I'm playing a magic-using class that generally likes to keep a distance.  But lately I've been getting close to enemies and discovering depth -- juggles, launches, sweeps, combining physical attacks with magic -- the list goes on.   And I'm not even playing a melee class!  I can't even imagine.

 

Another thing I like is how the game throws cool little things in levels to suprise you.    Most awesome so far is fighting some pirates, and well... I won't spoil it for those who haven't gotten there, but it was awesome.  I can't wait to beat it so I can start again as an Elf.  lol

Jbul
One cool thing is how objects that look like they should contain items usually do even if they don't have the telltale sparkle.
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I'm playing a magic-using class that generally likes to keep a distance.  But lately I've been getting close to enemies and discovering depth -- juggles, launches, sweeps, combining physical attacks with magic -- the list goes on.   And I'm not even playing a melee class!  I can't even imagine.Jbul

I find it VERY easy to jiggle with the Sorceress...

JUGGLE! I meant to say JUGGLE!

:P

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Is the wizard a good starting class?  I'm not really feeling the fighter, at least not for my first playthrough.

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I haven't touched multiplayer, right now I'm on the single player. But is there like, a difficulty setting that I missed? I don't recall seeing a difficulty setting in the options menus. The reason why I ask is because, although I'm still early in the game, it's seeming a bit too easy for me. I haven't died since the first level, and I think that's just because I hadn't gotten a handle on how the combat works yet. Furthermore, the screen gets so freaking busy that I often can't tell what the hell is going on. So I just mash buttons without even being able to see what's going on, and I still usually manage to dispatch most waves of enemies without taking much damage. Great game, but I think if possible I think I should think about ramping up the difficulty a bit.
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I haven't touched multiplayer, right now I'm on the single player. But is there like, a difficulty setting that I missed? I don't recall seeing a difficulty setting in the options menus. The reason why I ask is because, although I'm still early in the game, it's seeming a bit too easy for me. I haven't died since the first level, and I think that's just because I hadn't gotten a handle on how the combat works yet. Furthermore, the screen gets so freaking busy that I often can't tell what the hell is going on. So I just mash buttons without even being able to see what's going on, and I still usually manage to dispatch most waves of enemies without taking much damage. Great game, but I think if possible I think I should think about ramping up the difficulty a bit. MrGeezer

IIRC at the outset there is normal and easy.

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I only really started dying once the B-route bosses showed up. Been needing co-op to beat them because they have time restraints.

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#586 Gargus
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Female sex appeal in a video game?

What is this sorcery?!

Celldrax

Female sex appeal is everywhere. Its in there even targeting women.

Lets face it, how "average" women look like in the commercials for products directly targeted for women are not how the majority of real average women look in real life.

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Sexism sells to women also. No woman wants to buy a product that features an ugly, chubby, middle aged housewife. Only time you see unattractive women in commercials, tv, shows and womens magazines is when they are making fun of that woman or her ugliness is the point of her being there.

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#587 Jbul
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[QUOTE="Jbul"]

I'm playing a magic-using class that generally likes to keep a distance.  But lately I've been getting close to enemies and discovering depth -- juggles, launches, sweeps, combining physical attacks with magic -- the list goes on.   And I'm not even playing a melee class!  I can't even imagine.Phantom_Leo

I find it VER easy to jiggle with the Sorceress...

JUGGLE! I meant to say JUGGLE!

:P

 

:lol:

 

I recruited another sorceress along with a magic user and a dwarf!   Now the screen is just insane with the activity!  

 

Anyone know how long the game is on first playthrough?   I read a review that says 20-30 hours.  That's just bonkers if true.

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#588 Jbul
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Is the wizard a good starting class?  I'm not really feeling the fighter, at least not for my first playthrough.

MirkoS77

 

Nothing wrong with any of them to start, if you're an experienced gamer.   I started my game as a sorceress and at level 17 am doing fine.  It's just a matter of the tactics -- magic users need to strategize and pick their spots a bit moreso (not to mention recharge their mana) than someone like the Fighter, who can just run in and start clobbering everything :)  Of course, not saying melee fighters lack depth, it's just a matter of approach is all.

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#589 Jehuty08
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started off as an elf, I was getting slaughtered in the begginnign until I learned to pick my shots a little better. still have a bit of trouble with the depth perception where I think Im lined up with an enemy on the other end of the screen only to have my arrow pass right by them :P

Really enjoying the game so far

after letting my friend at work play it a bit, I convinced him to buy a vita to play it with me :D

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[QUOTE="Phantom_Leo"]

[QUOTE="Jbul"]

I'm playing a magic-using class that generally likes to keep a distance.  But lately I've been getting close to enemies and discovering depth -- juggles, launches, sweeps, combining physical attacks with magic -- the list goes on.   And I'm not even playing a melee class!  I can't even imagine.Jbul

I find it VER easy to jiggle with the Sorceress...

JUGGLE! I meant to say JUGGLE!

:P

 

:lol:

 

I recruited another sorceress along with a magic user and a dwarf!   Now the screen is just insane with the activity!  

 

Anyone know how long the game is on first playthrough?   I read a review that says 20-30 hours.  That's just bonkers if true.

Sounds right. I'm nine hours in and haven't gotten to the B side yet.
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Just picked up the bones of a Japanese player... level 94 Fighter.

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#592 CarnageHeart
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Just picked up the bones of a Japanese player... level 94 Fighter.

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I could use that guy. Just made it to the b side and went to the forest. I didn't win against the vicious boss, but I survived and then went to the pirate cove. My buddy the thief took my bones back to the temple...
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#593 N3MO
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[QUOTE="syztem"]

Just picked up the bones of a Japanese player... level 94 Fighter.

CarnageHeart
I could use that guy. Just made it to the b side and went to the forest. I didn't win against the vicious boss, but I survived and then went to the pirate cove. My buddy the thief took my bones back to the temple...

Recruiting him on Normal will scale his base stats back what they were at level 35. But equipment stats and skills are unphased by it. Its the same if you switch from a higher difficulty and switch back to normal and you are past the level cap. I highly recommend that you save him for the final battle.
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Furthermore, the screen gets so freaking busy that I often can't tell what the hell is going on. So I just mash buttons without even being able to see what's going on, and I still usually manage to dispatch most waves of enemies without taking much damage. Great game, but I think if possible I think I should think about ramping up the difficulty a bit. MrGeezer

Would recommend turning off some of your party slots at the tavern so that only 1 person can join you. You'll be able to see a lot better and the game will be a bit harder. Best you can do at that point, difficulty-wise.

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Red Dragon does not like dropping arrows...

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[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"][QUOTE="syztem"]

Just picked up the bones of a Japanese player... level 94 Fighter.

N3MO

I could use that guy. Just made it to the b side and went to the forest. I didn't win against the vicious boss, but I survived and then went to the pirate cove. My buddy the thief took my bones back to the temple...

Recruiting him on Normal will scale his base stats back what they were at level 35. But equipment stats and skills are unphased by it. Its the same if you switch from a higher difficulty and switch back to normal and you are past the level cap. I highly recommend that you save him for the final battle.

Interesting. I haven't unlocked hard yet (haven't beaten any of the B side quests, am leveling up my fighter by doing missions on the A side).

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I'm wondering if I've done something wrong. Every time I go to the Wizard's Tower, the Magical Runes selection is greyed out. He mentioned something about Runes when I rescued him, but touching them in the dungeons does nothing. Help?
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I'm wondering if I've done something wrong. Every time I go to the Wizard's Tower, the Magical Runes selection is greyed out. He mentioned something about Runes when I rescued him, but touching them in the dungeons does nothing. Help?Phantom_Leo
Keep playing. Eventually the runes will open up,
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Finished normal. Last boss down in 1m11s.

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Think I convinced a guy to buy DC. I saw him playing a Vita (he was playing CoD) and struck up a conversation. He had just bought Dungeon and Dragons for the PS3 and he was enjoying it so I told him he'd really love DC. He said he'd check it out.